Talend and FuseSource Fight for the Title of “Geek of Geeks” – Who has the Most Arcane Content?

I promised that I would share some real-world examples of how high-tech vendors’ marketing copy scores in my Arcanicity Index. So first up is some text from the respective web sites of Talend and FuseSource – two ESB vendors that I’m looking at in detail to test project REPAMATron.

As a reminder the Arcanicity Index looks to rate how much technical, or domain knowledge a reader would need to posses in order to understand a given piece of text. At the moment it works from the density of the abbreviations and acronyms found in the text. Future version may also look for technical concepts as well. The equation and MUCH more information on the Arcanicity Index can be found here or a slimmed down version is here.

The headline figures are as follows:

Element Talend Web Copy Figure FuseSource Web Copy Figure
Average Grade Index 18.24 13.68
Arcanity Index 21.02 72.76

The average Grade Index here is taken from the average of Flesh-Kincaid, Gunning-Fog, Coleman-Liau, Smog and the Automated Reading Index all of which aim to calculate the number of years of study someone would need in order to be able to comprehend the text from a structural point of view. What this tells us is that on average the structure of the text on the FuseSource site is much (nearly 5 school grades) easier to read.

However, if we look at my Arcanicity Index score (which is still a working draft and not finalised yet!) for the respective texts it shows that the FuseSource copy features a far higher degree of arcane concepts when compared to the Talend copy. The Arcanicity Index has a notional maximum of 100 although it is possible to score higher than 100. FuseSource scores 72.76 on that scale which makes the concepts contained within very complex.

What all this means is that the FuseSource web copy is likely to exclude non-expert readers and suggests that FuseSource is aiming at a VERY technically savvy audience. Talend’s web copy, whilst still containing very complex concepts is written in a narrative way with long hand explanations of concepts instead of using abbreviations and acronyms. Who has it right? Well I guess time and their relative success will tell.

I guess this goes to show that there is a significant difference between grade reading age and the degree of arcane, technical concepts within a text. This is why I decided to introduce the Arcanicity Index in the first place so I’m pleased it’s adding an extra layer of insight.

This just leaves me to announce that the current leader in the Arcanicity Index “Geek of Geeks” award for the most acronym-dense marketing copy is FuseSource with a score of 72.76.

Danny Goodall

For those masochists, insomniacs or natural language processing lovers out there; the statistics relating to the two vendors’ texts are shown below – in GREAT detail.



Text Structure Statistics

Here we see the statistics for the sentence and word structure. It’s clear from this table below that Talend uses longer and more complicated words when describing it’s ESB product offer.

Element Talend Web Copy Figure FuseSource Web Copy Figure
Number characters 1554 3007
Number of words 254 618
Number of sentences 12 24
Average chars per word 6.17 4.97
Average syllables per word 2.14 1.66
Average words per sentence 21.17 25.75
Words with 3+ syllables 85 101
% with 3+ syllables 33.46 16.34


Traditional Readability Index Scores

The table below shows the scores for Flesch-Kincaid, Gunning-Fog, Coleman-Liau, SMOG and the Automatic Reading Index. As mentioned above these indexes each attempts to predict the number of grade years of education that would be required to comprehend the text. More information can be found here.

Element Talend Web Copy Figure FuseSource Web Copy Figure
Flesch-Kincaid Grade 17.90 14.00
Gunning-Fog 19.80 15.30
Coleman-Liau 20.20 12.80
SMOG 15.30 11.90
Automated Reading Index 18.00 14.40
Average Grade–>> 18.24 13.68


Acronym Counts

The table below shows that statistics relating to acronyms. There are two sets of counts for each statistic – one for unique acronyms within the text and one that counts duplicates.

Element Talend Web Copy FuseSource Web Copy
Number of unique 6 26
Number of non-unique 11 62
Per 100 words (unique) 4.33 10.03
Per 100 words (non-unique) 2.36 4.21
Per 100 sentences (unique) 91.67 258.33
Per 100 sentences (non-unique) 50.00 108.33


Syllable counts

The table below shows the syllable counts for the words within each of the texts. The first line that begins [(1,93), (2,74)…] shows that there were 93 x 1 syllable words and 74 x 2 syllable words, etc. in Talend’s web copy. Again it is clear that despite the amount of words in the FuseSource sample being nearly double that in the Talend sample, Talend has very nearly as many 3 syllable words as FuseSource and only one less 4 sylaable word. Talend uses longer, more complex words to describe its offer.

Syllables Talend Web Copy FuseSource Web Copy
Syllable frequency [(1, 94), (2, 74), (3, 44), (4, 37), (5, 3), (6, 1)] [(1, 362), (2, 154), (3, 57), (4, 38), (5, 6)]
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Talend ESB Web Copy

Here is a sample of text taken from the ESB product page from Talend’s web site.

Talend ESB is a lightweight, modular solution for various enterprise integration requirements. An ESB provides a combination of service enablement, messaging transport, routing, and mediation to address a wide variety of enterprise integration challenges.  Talend ESB supports a broad set of standard enterprise integration patterns (EIPs) making it an excellent solution regardless of topology or architecture.  Moreover, Talend ESB is open and standards-based and therefore is widely interoperable with existing and legacy infrastructure components.

Talend Service Factory is designed for developers that are looking for rich service enablement capability without the additional overhead of a full-fledged ESB.  Talend Service Factory supports both Web services and REST based service development giving developers the freedom to choose the method most suitable for their existing environment.

Talend Integration Factory Community Edition simplifies integration tasks and makes users more productive in their integration projects. Talend Integration Factory is based on the open source Apache Camel project and is built on a lightweight, component-based architecture that supports a variety of integration protocols, data formats and programming languages.  It comes “out-of-the-box” with pre-configured runtime packages ready for deployment in environments including OSGi, Apache Tomcat, JEE servers or standalone JVM.

Learn about Talend’s application integration products:
Talend ESB, a flexible solution for complex distributed integration projects.
Talend Service Factory, an open, lightweight and flexible architecture  for service enablement.
Talend Integration Factory, a fully supported, production-ready mediation and routing product based on Apache Camel that uses Enterprise Integration Patterns to improve developer productivity


FuseSource Web Copy

Here is a similar sample taken from the product page for the FuseSource Fuse ESB.

The Open Source ESB for the Enterprise.Fuse ESB is certified, productized and fully supported by the people who wrote the code. Fuse ESB has a pluggable architecture that allows organizations to use their preferred service solutions in their SOA. Any standard JBI or OSGi-compliant service engine or binding component – including BPEL, XSLT or JMX engines – may be deployed to a Fuse ESB container, and Fuse ESB components may be deployed to other ESBs.

Key Features and Benefits

Standards-based design – JBI, OSGi, JMS, JCA, JMX, BPEL support Apache license – Fuse ESB license is based on Apache’s open source license
Supports any app server – WebSphere, WebLogic, JBoss and many others
Productized – integrated, tested, and releases are versioned
Supported – training, consulting, and subscriptions are available
Backed by Apache leaders – Fuse employs key ServiceMix contributers


Straightforward integration – reuse existing middleware components
Embeddable – can freely modify and redistribute the code
Flexible – use the development environment of your choice
Enterprise-class – can be used in large, mission-critical projects
Collaboration – comprehensive help for evaluation, development, deployment
Access to Apache – access to and influence over project roadmaps
Interested in more detail? Read the data sheet.

Ready to Get Started?


Download Fuse ESB (based on Apache ServiceMix)Looking for Fuse ESB 3? Downloads of earlier versions are available here.
Unix/Mac (81 MB, TAR.GZ)
Windows (82 MB, ZIP)
Source (4.5 MB, ZIP)
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Demo Videos
To run the demos yourself, first review the slide presentation then download the code:
These videos are .mov files which require QuickTime to view.
Building, installing and running Fuse ESB 4 (screencast): In this session, Ade shows how to build, install and run Fuse ESB 4. He also shows how to “prune” the installation so that FUSE ESB only loads up the modules you need for your work.
Deploying a POJO into Fuse ESB 4 (screencast): In this session, Ade gives an overview of his development environment, and shows how to deploy and share your Java POJOs into Fuse ESB 4. He shows how to integrate your logging with the Fuse ESB 4 logging system, and, how to read your own custom configuration data using properties files and the OSGi configuration service.
Deploying a Web Service into Fuse ESB 4 (screencast): In this session, Ade shows how to create a SOAP/HTTP web service using JAX-WS and deploy it into the Fuse ESB 4 runtime. He also shows how to tie this new component in with the shared POJO developed previously.
Deploying an Enterprise Integration Pattern into Fuse ESB 4 (screencast): In this session, Ade shows how to create and deploy enterprise integration patterns. Using the Apache Camel DSL, he creates a file- and FTP-poller to read in plain-text CSV files, saves them to a persistent queue using JMS, and then splits the batch data line-by-line for individual processing.
Deploying a JBI component into Fuse ESB 4 (screencast): In this session, Ade shows how to take JBI solutions developed and deployed in Fuse ESB 3 and deploy them in the Fuse ESB 4 container.

And that, was all she wrote.

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