Comments on: Web 2.0 and Enterprise 2.0: What’s that?

By: Ronan Bradley

Ronan Bradley — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:23:29 +0000

Paul,
And the IDC numbers are a little like asking one teenager asking another whether he is a virgin in front of his friends .
What I was trashing was the hype (and no web2.0 isn’t the first time this has happened – for instance IDC has claiming a 90% SOA adoption rate a couple of years back). Of course, there is a real trend towards using wikis (as you and I both point out).
Furthermore, I am a supporter of their use not only for source code documentation but also for service descriptions in SOA.
And finally, I would love to see the quantitative indicators on wiki adoption that you are talking about and happy to comment on them if you send me a copy or point me in the right direction at ronanb@lustratus.com.
Ronan

By: Paul Freeland

Paul Freeland — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:03:51 +0000

Interesting that you think that a straw poll conducted in a situation where people are about as likely to raise their hand as a teenager is to dance with his mother at a wedding. I see the point you are trying to squeeze from this, but I don’t think you have a valid point. There are far better, quantitative indicators that maybe used such as the growth of Wiki (confluence et al.) with respect to source code documentation – the kind of voodoo that you claim enterprise / management are so frightened of…
It’s easy to trash a trend as hype… or even back-off and say “well there are some valid uses but it’s all a little overhyped

By: Michael Kuhbock

Michael Kuhbock — Sat, 30 Jun 2007 20:00:24 +0000

Hi Ronan,
Great points on the emergence of the next business and social networking phenomena, Enterprise 2.0.
Enterprise 2.0 is an evolving phenomenon, and has been termed as use of freeform social software within companies (as defined by Andrew McAfee, Associate Professor, Harvard Business School, one of the thought leaders in this space).
The challenges with Enterprise 2.0 are twofold. First is the acceptance and use by non-technology business people. Here the problem is in the adoption and use of the Web 2.0 tools by technological neophytes, which would allow for the creation of any corporate value from a business collaboration standpoint. The second challenge is overcoming the managerial fear of unrestricted corporate communication both inside and outside the company firewall. Old school management philosophies and new era security methodologies can extinguish any free form collaboration value that Enterprise Web 2.0 can bring into an organisation.
Both these points can stall and stop any adoption of enterprise collaboration thus negating any value derived by a company.
Web 2.0, Enterprise 2.0 and SOA are buzzwords, concepts and practices which are being played with by the business and technology communities.
Business Collaboration (the outcome of the combination of the above buzz words) is the symbiotic relationship of the various technology components that facilitate a knowledge sharing environment and the ability to have an actionable outcome. Once we begin communicating to business the value proposition of the new technologies and what is in it for them if business adopts Enterprise 2.0 we will see adoption rates move towards the numbers that the analysts and media are espousing.
Cheers,
Michael Kuhbock
Chief Business Guy, Collabalache